Sometimes more talking doesn't produce more clarity. One afternoon, Trump told reporters that there were “no surprises” when Republican Sens. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski decided to oppose Pete Hegseth to lead the Pentagon. The next morning, Trump said he was “very surprised” by their votes.

Karoline Leavitt, President Trump's White House press secretary, made her briefing room debut today. NBC News correspondents Julia Ainsley, Sahil Kapur, Ken Dilanian and The Atlantic staff writer Ashley Parker join Chris Jansing to discuss.

Karoline Leavitt’s first White House press briefing reaffirmed a truism about the Trump White House: His aides perform for an “audience of one.”